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After reading over the work of Digital Cuttlefish, poet laureate of the Scientific Blogohedron, and a comment they made, long ago, I began pondering to what extent is it true that one MUST practice in order to write good poetry.
Since that time, I’ve sent two friends copies of Stephen Fry’s guide to poetry – ‘The Ode Less Travelled: Unlocking the Poet Within‘:
I believe poetry is a primal impulse within us all. I believe we are all capable of it and furthermore that a small, often ignored corner of us positively yearns to try it. I believe our poetic impulse is blocked by the false belief that poetry might on the one hand be academic and technical, and on the other formless and random…
It led me to a psychology paper which taps into the research I’m helping with – Expert Performance. Its Structure and Acquisition by K. Anders Ericsson and Neil Charness (1994). Since I’ve also had the suggestion by some science teachers about debunking the work of Gardner and multiple intelligences, it struck me that they also challenge Gardner’s idea that success leads to more deliberate practice, by saying that deliberate practice activities are designed in order to ensure success.
Only careful observation and study of differences in the type and amount of activities associated with the longitudinal emergence of abilities and performance in normal and ‘very talented’ children will allow us to determine the potential and possible limits of explanations based on characteristics acquired through focused and extended activity – Ericsson & Charness, 1994.
Talent versus (heh, verses?) training has been an ongoing debate throughout history – and you can see it in the discipline behind the art of poetry.
Now, I could sneer at research and say there are ‘lies, damned lies and statistics’. I could point to the long-heralded tradition of the muse and say ‘well, they wouldn’t claim of muses it if they weren’t TRUE, now would they?’
Telegraph – 8th March, 2009: Poet Laureate dedicates first book of poetry in 7 years to his muse
Andrew Motion, the Poet laureate, has credited his new muse with inspiring him to complete his first book of poetry for seven years.
I guess before I became a student of psychology and education, I never really thought much of poetry being in the same vein as music or dance – and requiring practice.
Perhaps I’m also thinking too much of the (possible apocryphal) story of Sylvia Plath, emerging from her rooms at Yaddo, reciting ‘In the Manor Garden‘ off the top of her head, ready to launch her first collection, ‘The Colossus‘. Maybe it’s the notion of ‘writer’s block’; unless some sort of ‘divine inspiration’ is bestowed upon someone, you literally can’t write. Could one, via some form of practice, ‘out write’ writer’s block? Just start…. writing? Anything?
I guess it’s both notions – that a true poet is just ‘gifted’ with a poem and ‘writer’s block’ preventing writing that made me doubt whether ‘practice makes the poem’.
But first I’ll mention author, commentator and satirist Thomas Love Peacock, taken from his work The Four Ages of Poetry -
Poetry is not one of those arts which, like painting, require repetition and multiplication, in order to be diffused among society. There are more good poems already existing than are sufficient to employ that portion of life which any mere reader and recipient of poetical impressions should devote to them and these having been produced in poetical times [i.e. well before the Romantic era - starting in early Greek and Roman times and finishing this 'Golden Age' with Milton, Collins and Grey], are far superior in all the characteristics of poetry to the artificial reconstructions of a few morbid ascetics in unpoetical times.
To read the promiscuous rubbish of the present time to the exclusion of the select treasures of the past, is to substitute the worst for the better variety of the same mode of enjoyment.
Heh. Promiscuous. *snorfle*
Yet in reading this, I’m led to reject Peacock’s conclusions (which I once hoped were satirical but I have my doubts!) about the poetry of the time that he disdained. Because he’s talking about Shelley, Wordsworth (whom he calls ‘a morbid dreamer‘), Keats, Coleridge… and the likes of ‘bad-boy’ Byron, who dared to brush aside the traditional observation to the muses in Canto Three of ‘Don Juan’ -
Hail, Muse! et cetera. — We left Juan sleeping,
Pillow’d upon a fair and happy breast,
And watch’d by eyes that never yet knew weeping,
And loved by a young heart, too deeply blest
To feel the poison through her spirit creeping,
Or know who rested there, a foe to rest,
Had soil’d the current of her sinless years,
And turn’d her pure heart’s purest blood to tears!Oh, Love! what is it in this world of ours
Which makes it fatal to be loved? Ah, why
With cypress branches hast thou wreathed thy bowers,
And made thy best interpreter a sigh?
As those who dote on odours pluck the flowers,
And place them on their breast — but place to die –
Thus the frail beings we would fondly cherish
Are laid within our bosoms but to perish.
In looking at Byron’s work, I don’t think there’s enough of a case to disdain Byron’s choice of ‘getting to the action’ (or, ahem, the result of the …. previous action) – instead of pompous salutations and obsequiousness to a mythical creature of inspiration. This is beautiful poetry, even if it isn’t Milton or Homer.
To limit like Peacock is to invite stagnation; to take it a step further – turns it into extinction.
No Byron. No Dawe. No Atwood. No Plath or Hughes. My poetry syllabus would be seriously curtailed. I could probably get all the teaching done in one term and have creative writing classes (the few that we get…) on short stories alone. No limerick threads that you play along with on forum boards, either.
B. F. Skinner compares the process of creating a poem with the process of ‘creating’ a baby – or more accurately, not so much ‘creation’ as as locus – interaction between two genetic histories (in the case of the parents) or between a genetic and an environmental history (in the case of the poet). As said by Guy Claxton, of the “Intuition and the Artist” seminar (The lecture “On Having a Poem” file can be found here):
“…[T]here’s a wonderful article called ‘On Having a Poem’, not on writing a poem, not on producing a poem, not on choreographing a poem but on having a poem, like having a baby. The development of that image, like it comes in you, it grows in you, it germinates, it’s part of you but you don’t make it, you don’t craft it. You don’t manufacture it. And what delights me about that article is that it’s written by someone called B.F. Skinner, the behaviorist. It’s a great little article.”
Perhaps the subconscious mind ‘seeding’ the poem, results in it coming ‘automatically’ to a poet, like the Plath story I related – it would be wrong of me to ignore the reams of poetic and artistic work that Plath produced for much of her life; I think her first published work was at the age of 10?
Maybe my focus on the ‘what the poem is about’ ignores the ‘how’ at times. I discovered (by poking about) back in my days of Literature classes, that the set text ‘The Norton Anthology Of English Literature‘ included an appendix called ‘Poems In Progress‘, which features the following in its introduction:
In all ages, some poets have claimed that their poems were not willed but were inspired, whether by a muse, by divine inspiration, or by sudden emergence from the author’s subconscious mind. But as the poet Richard Aldington has remarked ‘genius is not enough; one must also work.’ The working manuscripts of the greatest writers show that, however involuntary the origin of a poem, vision was usually followed by laborious revision before the work achieved the seeming inevitability of its final form….
It goes on to point out the inclusion in this volume (and in the first volume) the examples of revision from poets Blake, Byron, Shelley and Keats – apparently Yeat’s After Long Silence “began as a prose sketch that gradually and laboriously was reshaped into a metric and stanzaic form”.
In all these examples we look on as poets, no matter how rapidly they achieve a result they are willing to let stand, carry on their inevitably tentative efforts to meet the multiple requirements of meaning, syntax, meter, sound pattern and the constraints imposed by a chosen stanza. And because these are all very good poets, the seeming conflict between the necessities of significance and form results not in the distortion but in the perfecting of the poetic statement.
The ‘works in progress’ are fascinating and I can’t really reproduce them here accurately… Shelley has the first two stanzas of O World, O Life, O Time mapped out like this:
Na na, na na ná na
Nã nã na na na – nã nã
Nã nã nã n- n-
Na na nã nã nâ – na
And here I was thinking I was the only one who absent-mindedly tapped the table in order to get the timing right. In passing, I found it amusing to see how much Keats worried about how best to illustrate a woman getting her bodice removed by her Saint Agnes’ Eve lover… practically ‘fumbling with the laces himself’…
As Stephen Fry (I refer again!) said in The Ode Less Travelled:
…the point remains: it isn’t a burden to learn the difference between acid and alkaline soil or understand how f-stops and exposure times affect your photograph. There’s no drudgery or humiliation in discovering how to knit, purl and cast off, snowplough your skis, deglaze a pan, carve a dovetail or tot up your bridge hand according to Acol. Only an embarrassed adolescent or deranged coward thinks jargon and reserved languages are pretentious and that detail and structure are boring.
…Talent without technique is like an engine without a steering wheel, gears or brakes. It doesn’t matter how thoroughbred and powerful the V12 under the bonnet if it can’t be steered and kept under control. …Do athletes boast of their hand-eye coordination, grace and natural sense of balance? No, they talk of how hard they trained, the sacrifices they made, the effort they put in.
I think research demonstrates how some Expert Performances were indeed gained from Structure and Acquisition. And I didn’t even have to go much further than the Romantic era poetry.
Poor proud Thomas Love Peacock; I wonder how many people still read his work on poetry. Stephen Fry, on the other hand, has recently released t-shirts based on how many follow his Twitter account…
Ericsson, K., & Charness, N. (1994). Expert performance: Its structure and acquisition. American Psychologist, 49 (8), 725-747 DOI: 10.1037//0003-066X.49.8.725


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Brava!!!
(Ok, I want to write more, but to do justice to a post like this will take some doing.)
When things are calmed down (for both of us!) maybe try a dialogue again?
“B. F. Skinner compares the process of creating a poem with the process of ‘creating’ a baby – or more accurately, not so much ‘creation’ as as locus – interaction between two genetic histories (in the case of the parents) or between a genetic and an environmental history (in the case of the poet).”
Skinner was also just a little bit crazy (the rumor that he used a human-sized Skinner box with his daughter is true according to my sources) and a lot WRONG about language in particular.
I think that, like any other fine art, there are components of both art and skill. The skill part can be learned/practiced whereas the art part may be “natural” for some, but is difficult to acquire.
My husband is a Designer/Art Director and quite talented in my opinion & the opinions of almost everyone else who has seen his work. He often describes his work as a skill that anyone can learn, but I don’t believe that’s entirely true.
I have often credited “talent” as resulting from “interest” and hard work as opposed to some naturally occurring “gift”.
As an artist (painter & graphic) who has enjoyed some level of commercial success, I know that much of what I do I have learned through dedication more than inspiration. The question, for me anyway, is whether the “interest” that drove me to pursue art, as opposed to kicking a footy, is hard-wired or perhaps sociological or something else.
There are times, though, when words like “talent” and “gift” come across almost as insults – as if the “gifted” person doesn’t even need to try in order to be good at what they’re doing.
A part of me feels I could do poetry (nonsense verse at least) but I’m disinclined to try it seriously, so it remains difficult. Then I read DC’s amazing stuff and figure I just might not stand a snowball’s chance of ever being good enough at it to satisfy myself. I’m just not that talented
Sigh.
@badrescher–
“Skinner was also just a little bit crazy (the rumor that he used a human-sized Skinner box with his daughter is true according to my sources) and a lot WRONG about language in particular.”
Your source is more than just a little bit wrong. Deborah Skinner Buzan (Skinner’s daughter, a successful artist, specializing in landscapes) addresses one such blatantly wrong source here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2004/mar/12/highereducation.uk .
If you wish to read the original Ladies Home Journal article (from 1945!) introducing the AirCrib, instead of relying on dodgy sources, it is here: http://www.uni.edu/~maclino/cl/skinner_baby_in_a_box.pdf .
As for Verbal Behavior, it is likely that your source has read nothing more on the subject than Chomsky’s review, which led cognitive psychologists on their revolution, and led behaviorists to wonder whether Chomsky had actually read the book. Chomsky’s description of Skinner’s theory was factually inaccurate to the point of being unrecognizable (for one of many reviews, see Kenneth MacCorquodale’s reply here: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&artid=1333660 ) The Analysis of Verbal Behavior is still a very strong and useful field, especially (at present–but by no means exclusively) regarding teaching autistic children to speak.
One thing you could probably accurately blame Skinner for, though, is not adequately responding when others badly misrepresented his work. He basically ignored Chomsky, for instance, figuring that the review was so incredibly wrong that no one would take it seriously. Bad move; far more people have read Chomsky’s review than have read Skinner’s original book, and so far more people have an inaccurate view of what the analysis of verbal behavior is. (I include Ph. D. psychologists in this; I have had many occasions to correct people who should have known better. I can’t, then, blame non-experts too terribly much.) One nice summary (not the only one) of some of the longstanding myths about Radical Behaviorism is found in Todd & Morris’s “Case studies in the Great Power of Steady Misrepresentation”: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1482006 .
Lastly, Skinner was very much a devotee of the arts. He and his daughter took a sculpture course together, for instance; he was a regular patron of the orchestra and theatre, and of course supported and encouraged his daughter, the artist. I met him in his later years, and have known quite a few people who knew him well; all agree he was incredibly well-rounded, inquisitive, intelligent, warm… oddly enough, I don’t think I have heard anyone who has actually known the man describe him as “a little bit crazy”.
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