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	<title>Comments on: Tell Me More About This Australian Thing Called Rooting</title>
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	<description>Science, Superstitions and Skeptical Life</description>
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		<title>By: Adrian Morgan</title>
		<link>http://podblack.com/2009/03/tell-me-more-about-this-australian-thing-called-rooting/comment-page-1/#comment-18007</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen, your response left me feeling a bit puzzled. We&#039;re in the thorny realm of pragmatics here, the thorniness of which is the reason for countless innocent misunderstandings in the world, but to me the phrase &quot;I&#039;m afraid&quot; suggests that you think I was arguing with you when in fact I was just providing a datapoint.

Certainly you can&#039;t discuss everything in one interview, but please consider my previous comment an expression of interest in the areas I mentioned. On that, I suspect that cultures in which all mention of taboo words is strictly forbidden would tend to be cultures where scepticism doesn&#039;t have much of a foothold and beliefs we might think of as superstitious are shared by practically everyone. My reasoning is that such a culture might well regard the taboo words as having a sort of magical power in their own right, as in the literal meaning of the word &quot;curse&quot;. But I&#039;d be interested in hearing you talk about such things in more detail sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen, your response left me feeling a bit puzzled. We&#8217;re in the thorny realm of pragmatics here, the thorniness of which is the reason for countless innocent misunderstandings in the world, but to me the phrase &#8220;I&#8217;m afraid&#8221; suggests that you think I was arguing with you when in fact I was just providing a datapoint.</p>
<p>Certainly you can&#8217;t discuss everything in one interview, but please consider my previous comment an expression of interest in the areas I mentioned. On that, I suspect that cultures in which all mention of taboo words is strictly forbidden would tend to be cultures where scepticism doesn&#8217;t have much of a foothold and beliefs we might think of as superstitious are shared by practically everyone. My reasoning is that such a culture might well regard the taboo words as having a sort of magical power in their own right, as in the literal meaning of the word &#8220;curse&#8221;. But I&#8217;d be interested in hearing you talk about such things in more detail sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://podblack.com/2009/03/tell-me-more-about-this-australian-thing-called-rooting/comment-page-1/#comment-18005</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 07:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, I&#039;ve never heard the word &#039;coit&#039; before either.  

I had the pleasure of introducing George to the word &#039;root&#039; at TAM-6.  It was a great moment :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I&#8217;ve never heard the word &#8216;coit&#8217; before either.  </p>
<p>I had the pleasure of introducing George to the word &#8216;root&#8217; at TAM-6.  It was a great moment <img src='http://podblack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://podblack.com/2009/03/tell-me-more-about-this-australian-thing-called-rooting/comment-page-1/#comment-17950</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian - you haven&#039;t heard of &quot;KY&quot; or &quot;coit&quot;? I&#039;m afraid they&#039;re very common terms in Australia, whether you know them or not. Try a Google search.

As for universals and cross-cultural perspectives, that&#039;s for another interview entitely. Not everything can be treated in a short (but long) interview such as this...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian &#8211; you haven&#8217;t heard of &#8220;KY&#8221; or &#8220;coit&#8221;? I&#8217;m afraid they&#8217;re very common terms in Australia, whether you know them or not. Try a Google search.</p>
<p>As for universals and cross-cultural perspectives, that&#8217;s for another interview entitely. Not everything can be treated in a short (but long) interview such as this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Morgan</title>
		<link>http://podblack.com/2009/03/tell-me-more-about-this-australian-thing-called-rooting/comment-page-1/#comment-17932</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 02:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the words that Karen claims are dirty in Australia,  I can&#039;t say I&#039;ve ever heard of. Like &quot;coit&quot;.

On &quot;smeg&quot;, that is of course hardly an isolated case; you might say it&#039;s a tradition for science fiction writers to invent a swear word for their fictional cultures. From an artistic POV I think there&#039;s more to it than merely a way of circumventing censors.

On the definition of smut, I don&#039;t think anyone could seriously deny that things like attitude and motivation are a big part of it - smut is not so much about &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt; you say as &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; you say it - but those things are sort of hard to measure.

On the topic of swear words across cultures, in this interview Karen focuses on the literal meaning of taboo words, leaving largely untouched some more abstract questions about different  cultures&#039; attitudes to swearing and what that says about our shared human psychology. Whether people see taboo words as words that should never be mentioned at all, or as potent tools that should be wielded sparingly, or whether people generally agree that mentioning a swear word is not tantamout to swearing -- it might be interesting to look in more depth at how these things vary from one culture to another.

See also my comment on Karen&#039;s post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the words that Karen claims are dirty in Australia,  I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve ever heard of. Like &#8220;coit&#8221;.</p>
<p>On &#8220;smeg&#8221;, that is of course hardly an isolated case; you might say it&#8217;s a tradition for science fiction writers to invent a swear word for their fictional cultures. From an artistic POV I think there&#8217;s more to it than merely a way of circumventing censors.</p>
<p>On the definition of smut, I don&#8217;t think anyone could seriously deny that things like attitude and motivation are a big part of it &#8211; smut is not so much about <i>what</i> you say as <i>why</i> you say it &#8211; but those things are sort of hard to measure.</p>
<p>On the topic of swear words across cultures, in this interview Karen focuses on the literal meaning of taboo words, leaving largely untouched some more abstract questions about different  cultures&#8217; attitudes to swearing and what that says about our shared human psychology. Whether people see taboo words as words that should never be mentioned at all, or as potent tools that should be wielded sparingly, or whether people generally agree that mentioning a swear word is not tantamout to swearing &#8212; it might be interesting to look in more depth at how these things vary from one culture to another.</p>
<p>See also my comment on Karen&#8217;s post.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://podblack.com/2009/03/tell-me-more-about-this-australian-thing-called-rooting/comment-page-1/#comment-17927</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 00:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for turning me on to Cursebird!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for turning me on to Cursebird!!!</p>
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		<title>By: AndyD</title>
		<link>http://podblack.com/2009/03/tell-me-more-about-this-australian-thing-called-rooting/comment-page-1/#comment-17894</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Context seems to have a huge bearing too. My wife barely ever swears. I swear in certain circumstances depending on present company. We can both feel offence with the harshest swearing in public.

However, when we watched The Commitments movie, we were in fits at how many times &quot;the F-word&quot; cropped up. The second time we watched it, we decided to try and count them. We gave up. We still watch it occasionally and still find it amusing rather than offensive &lt;b&gt;in that movie&lt;/b&gt;. In other movies however (eg: American teen movies or similar genre) I find it more annoying than offensive and rarely amusing. I also don&#039;t generally enjoy stand up comedians who lace their routines with expletives. But in The Commitments...!

Maybe I just like Irish accents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Context seems to have a huge bearing too. My wife barely ever swears. I swear in certain circumstances depending on present company. We can both feel offence with the harshest swearing in public.</p>
<p>However, when we watched The Commitments movie, we were in fits at how many times &#8220;the F-word&#8221; cropped up. The second time we watched it, we decided to try and count them. We gave up. We still watch it occasionally and still find it amusing rather than offensive <b>in that movie</b>. In other movies however (eg: American teen movies or similar genre) I find it more annoying than offensive and rarely amusing. I also don&#8217;t generally enjoy stand up comedians who lace their routines with expletives. But in The Commitments&#8230;!</p>
<p>Maybe I just like Irish accents.</p>
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